Organization with multiple Vat numbers Regitration

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just in case if i have a client that has 3 different vat numbers for organizations
do the organizations will register seprately or is there any way to handle this? Like how can i handle this situation can i register 3 organizations under one account?

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3 different CRN numbers under one vat number not three vat numbers right ?

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No i dont know What Actually is CRN
but one point is very clear and it is that
I have three different VAT numbers .

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yes i have confirmed it from client he is saying that
he has 3 legal entities with different CRNS and have one VAT

yes you picked the point right!

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Actually i have a client and he is saying that
he has
3 Legal Entities —mean 3 difference CRN #
No different VAT #
its not group of companies

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every VAT no -----> 1 CCSID
supplier information when you send thru XML … it will be differ as CRN informations ( 3 CR)

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Can you please Ellaborate it .Actually i am new in this Field i dont know too much about that
Will be gratefull if you will help me

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Can a company have 3 Differenet CRNS but just One VAT number ?
as far i know one company has seprate unique CRN and Unique VAT number
then how ??
and the client is also saying it is not group of comapnies!!

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  1. you will Request for 1 Certificate from Zatca … config. file…include the VAT Number
  2. when you create XML for an invoice … you have to check …this invoice belong to which POS (CRN) …
  3. if The CRN … is Main CRN … you will use in your xml “CRN” and Main CRN no
    But if the CRN is sub-CRN … you will use in your xml “OTH” and and sub-CRN no

and in ant case you will include the vat no included in your Config file

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Main CRN and Sub CRN …
client is saying he has 3 Different CRNS for His 3 companies but have one single VAT number ok
so i created a CSR with that vat ok then GOT the CSID ok
then i will have to post that invoice to zatca which is in XML

so you meant to say i need to add The CRN number in the XML
so it will be the main CRN i think because i dont have any sub-CRN

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you say …3 Different CRNS
these 3 …one will be main (you have to look for VAT CERTIFICATE …
this will mention Main CR no …
and down will find the sub-CR … related to the MAIN one

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I have the same scenario need some clarification:

  1. Background: My client has a single VAT registration number, but multiple CRN numbers for different branches. I created a common PCSID using the VAT number, without including any CRN in the config file. During the onboarding process, I submit all invoice types to the compliance/invoices API to get the PCSID. After getting the PCSID, I use it to sign all invoices. For each branch, I change the CRN in the XML (e.g., <cbc:ID schemeID="CRN">3111111114</cbc:ID>) and adjust the <cac:PostalAddress> based on the branch.

Questions:

  1. Do I need to include any CRN information in the CSR config file? If yes, how should I include it?
  2. Should all CRNs be mentioned in the XML used during the onboarding process (i.e., invoices submitted to the compliance/invoices API to get the PCSID)?
  3. After getting the PCSID, is my approach to including the CRN in each invoice sent to the reporting/clearance API correct?
  4. Is it correct to change the <cac:PostalAddress> details for each branch based on the CRN?
  5. Each branch has its own short address (e.g., RRRD2929). Which short address should I provide in the CSR config file?
  6. Are there any additional steps I need to implement in this scenario?
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can you please clarify my doubts also

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Brother Can you please Tell me that
if i have two organizations with different VAT numbers then Do i need to onboard them Seprately?

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  1. No need
  2. No need
  3. for Main CR … use “CRN” but for sub-CR … use “OTH”
    you have to include just 1 CR no in your invoice ( main one Or sub one) as per invoice issued pos (as you mentioned)
  4. Yes
  5. only main CR in your config file
  6. nothing i think
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yes, on-board each one separately

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Can the CRN of two comapnies or group of companies be same in any case ?

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@Embro
Thanks for the explanation,
Let me ask one more thing, in case each Branch uses separate Accounting Application, can I register separate Device for each branch?
With the same VAT Number and with their respective CRN and postal address.

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Thank you Brother.
Can you make a clarification on the following its from zatca official documentation.
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It says that each individual tax group member should be onboarded as a separate device. In my scenario only one onboarding is done. This makes some confusions.